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The celebrated author explores new ways to view ourselves and the society we live in, and gives us fresh answers to such enduring questions as how to think for ourselves and understand what we know....

Title : Prisons We Choose to Live Inside
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  • Trevor
    2019-05-14 07:04

    I wonder what I would have made of this series of lectures if I had listened to them when they were given in 1985 – at a time when I was one of the young people Lessing refers to here, one assured of certain certainties. My best guess is that I would have rejected her as a reactionary. Now virtually everything she says seems to be self-evidently the case.When we are young we believe we can change the world – we look about ourselves and see that the world is dysfunctional and we believe that we can be agents of change, agents that will make everything be all right. Lessing does sometimes patronise those who still believe this, but it is a bitter kind of patronising, one born of her having been there before and knowing that the kind of change the young often seek is all too often to do with naivety than fresh insight. Perhaps the thing that resonated most with me in this series of lectures was the idea that yesterday’s subversive idea is today’s orthodoxy and will inevitably become tomorrow’s reactionary nonsense. We often cling to the hope that we can leave a permanent mark on the universe, but everything about us is temporary and destined to perish. I heard someone say that the most horrible thing about the prospect of living for 100 years isn’t so much that everyone you know will be dead, but that all of the ideas that you were brought up believing as the cornerstones of your very being will probably have so altered as to be unrecognisable. We are all born to become anachronisms if only we live long enough, possibly even drooling in a corner in some hideous nursing home watching whatever will pass for television having effectively died mentally a decade or more before.I’m making these talks sound much more negative than they actually are – the point of them, I think, is to stress the bad news first before offering some chance at hope. The bad news is that we humans are social animals and far too ready to be swept along by group think. She makes some lovely points around psychological experiments that have been conducted over the years and that show we are all too likely to act in ways that are morally objectionable. We are far too quick at behave like prisoners or prison guards if assigned either of those roles, far too quick to turn up the voltage if instructed to do so despite the nightmare inducing screams coming from the further room. When we are young we think we will be different. Then we ignore the errors and traps we, as a species, invariably fall into. We never pay attention when told that if we are teachers we will treat boys differently to how we treat girls, that we will treat people of colour differently (in both cases, that is, less favourably) than we will treat white people. We can know the statistics, but still not believe we are capable of such discrimination. The world is populated by people who will do whatever they can to get you to think in the same narrow, shallow and simpleminded way they do. Avoiding thinking like everyone else is a constant struggle the vast majority of us give up fighting. However, if you do plan to be different you should learn from those who were different that came before you and recognise that their fate could so easily be your fate – people like Socrates, Jesus, Martin Luther King. How different are you prepared to be? How will you know when you’ve given up the struggle to be yourself? You see, conformity has rewards – so many rewards that a reasonable rule of thumb is that if you can feel yourself being rewarded your first guess should be to consider that you have probably sold out.The lesson here isn’t so much to become an individual – that is merely a consequence of the real lesson, which is to be reflective. That is to be reflective of your own behaviour and of the behaviour of those around you. Not necessarily judgemental (though, it is probably impossible to avoid that particularly all-too-human little trap) but reflective and, if you can possibly manage it, forgiving – of yourself as much as of others.There is a nice line at the end of this to the effect that so much of what is valued in modern society is about techniques and technologies – and by definition these are temporary and transitory skills and abilities. How many video player repairmen are making a living today? But the sad fact is that perhaps the questions that aren’t temporary, the great philosophical questions, that they have possibly never been further from being answered because we have either lost all faith in the answers or we have accepted some hideously simpleminded ‘solution’ to the unbearable complexity of life. It is hard not to feel some sympathy for those who find and cling to simple answers, particularly when the complex answers are not really answers at all.If this series of lectures does one thing, and one thing exceptionally well, it does get you thinking about the dank cells we lock ourselves away in. It is a good thing to be reminded regularly that mind-forged manacles are no less restricting than those forged in iron.

  • Rowena
    2019-05-12 08:10

    I really enjoyed this collection of 5 essays, which were part of a CBC Radio Massey Lecture series in 1985 They were not only fascinating but they also really challenged my thinking. Lessing’s main premise is that although this generation knows more about themselves than any other, they are not utilizing that information to better their lives: "I believe that people coming after us will marvel that on the one hand we accumulated more and more info about our behaviour, while on the other, we made no attempt at all to use it to improve our lives." I enjoyed Lessing. She’s a profound and insightful writer, witty and sarcastic too. She’s an advocate of literature, the social sciences and history and sees the great importance, the need of these, in this world. I was really impressed by her analysis of these disciplines (and was at the same time glad because that's my academic focus). I never would have thought of saying that a writer is "almost like an organism, which has been evolved by society as a means of examining itself" but that’s what Lessing said and it makes sense; I love this thought.Another point that Lessing made that spoke to me was the prevalence of group minds and the lack of, but the need for, individuality:“Does everything always have to be so predictable? Do people really have to be such sheep?”Lessing really drove home the point that we, as thinking humans, should question everything.I can already tell that Lessing is going to be one of my favourite writers and I’m looking forward to reading more of her writing. I only wish I had discovered her before she passed away.You can listen to Lessing's Massey Lectures here:

  • Paria
    2019-04-26 08:03

    شما مجبور خواهید بود در دنیایی مملو از حرکت های جمعی، چه مذهبی و چه سیاسی، فکر های جمعی زندگی کنید. هر روز و هر ساعت در افکار و عقایدی غرق می شوید که به طور جمعی تولید و طوطی وار تکرار می شوند. و تنها نیروی حیاتی واقعی آنها ناشی از قدرت عوام، شعارها و تفکر قالبی است. در سراسر عمر خود تحت فشار خواهید بود که به این حرکت های جمعی بپیوندید، و اگر بتوانید در برابر این فشار مقاومت کنید، هر روز از سوی انواع و اقسام گروه ها، که غالبا از نزدیک ترین دوستانتان هستند، تحت فشار قرار میگیرید که با آن ها همساز شوید. در طول زندگی خود بارها گمان خواهید کرد که ایستادگی در برابر این فشار ها فایده ای ندارد، و به اندازه ی کافی قوی نیستید.ولی خواهید آموخت که این فکرهای جمعی، این فشارهای به ظاهر مقاومت ناپذیر را بررسی کنید، خواهید آموخت که خودتان فکر کنید، و خودتان انتخاب کنید.

  • Miss Ravi
    2019-05-18 11:59

    خوبیِ این کتاب روبه‌رو شدنِ ما با واقعیتِ خودمونه، با حقیقتی که هستیم. تحلیل و بررسی لسینگ برام قابل تحسینه که چقدر بی‌طرفانه و در عین‌حال با آگاهیِ ویژه‌ای ما آدم‌ها رو به عنوان حیوان‌های اجتماعی تحلیل می‌کنه و زیر سوال می‌بره. علاوه بر اون یه مقداری بیش‌تر از یه آگاهیِ عمومی به خواننده ارائه می‌ده که نه فقط شامل بررسی رفتارهای اجتماعی و درک واکنش آدم‌ها به عنوان جزئی از گروهِ جامعه‌ می‌شه که دست روی مسائلی می‌ذاره که سیر حرکت جامعه رو در برمی‌گیره. این‌که ما داریم به کجا می‌ریم؟ مثلاً درباره‌ی عادی شدنِ رفتارهای خشونت آمیز برای ما از طریق رسانه‌ها مطالب جالبی می‌گه که ذهن‌ام رو وادار کرده چیزهایی در این‌باره بعداً پُست کنم.

  • Mohammadreza
    2019-05-02 08:05

    این اولین کتابی است که ازدوریس لسینگ خواندم و می‌توانم بگویم به همین سرعت به یکی از نویسنده های محبوبم تبدیل شد و قطعاً میروم سراغ باقی آثارش. این کتاب شامل پنج سخنرانیِ لسینگ در رادیو سی.بی.اس امریکا در سال هزار و نهصد و هشتاد و پنج است که در آن‌ها دربارۀ موضوعات مهم معاصر صحبت می‌کند.آن‌چیزی که لسینگ را برای من فرد بزرگی می‌کند این است که وی به معنای واقعی کلمه روشنفکر است و با دیدی باز، فارغ از تمام ایسم‌ها، احزاب و چارچوب‌های مکاتب فکری، به مسائل می‌نگرد و تبیین‌های خاص خود را ارائه می‌دهد. فردی که دیدی عمیق دارد و تجربه ای زیاد و به دور است از جزمی گرایی و حکم های کلی دادن. سعی می‌کند از جنبه های مختلف به قضایا نگاه کند.دوریس لسینگ در این کتاب دیدی تلخ و گزنده دارد و تصویر سیاهی از سرشت بشر پیش روی ما ترسیم می‌کند. بشری که از کشتن، جنگیدن و خشونت لذت می‌برد. آن بخشی از وجودمان که از گذشتۀ نامتدنمان در ما باقی مانده، که می‌تواند به غایت سبعانه باشد. آزمایشات مختلف این حقیقت را به اثبات رسانده‌اند که هر انسانی می‌تواند تبدیل به یک نازی شود که بدون رحم و به صورتی وحشیانه تنها مجری دستوراتی باشد که به او داده می‌شود و تا حد مرگ همنوع خود را شکنجه کند. تصویری که او از فضای جنگ و بیدار شدن سرشت خشونت‌طلب انسان می‌دهد، مو بر اندامم سیخ می کند:«کسانی که جنگ را پشت سر گذاشته‌اند، می‌دانند که با نزدیک شدن جنگ هیجانی در آغاز پنهان، ناشناخته، شروع می‌شود، گویی بر طبل می‌کوبند که صدایش به زحمت به گوش می‌رسد ... هیجانی مهیب، غیرمجاز، خشونت‌بار در فضا موج می‌زند. بعد این هیجان چنان شدت می‌گیرد که دیگر نمی‌توان آن را نادیده گرفت یا به آن بی‌اعتنا بود: بعد بر همگان مستولی می‌شود.»به نظر لسینگ:«بحث دربارۀ جنگ، یا صلح، بدون اذعان به اینکه تعداد خیلی زیادی از آدم‌ها از جنگ – نه تنها از فکر جنگ، بلکه از خود عمل جنگیدن – لذت می‌برند، احساسات گرایی است.». او از ما می‌خواهد چشمان خود را به بخش‌های تاریک و رقت‌بارِ بشر نبندیم و با آن روبرو شویم. هرچقدر که این تصویر دهشتناک باشد نباید از آن بگریزیم. ببینید چقدر پیشگویانه از روند سقوط بشر به اوج شرارت می‌گوید، انگار این حرفها برای امروز زده شده:«اکنون زمانه‌ای است که زنده بودن هولناک است، زمانه‌ای که فکر کردن به انسان‌ها به عنوان موجوداتی منطقی دشوار است. به هر سو نگاه می‌کنیم شقاوت و حماقت می‌بینیم، تا آنجا که گویی چیز دیگری برای دیدن وجود ندارد - سقوط به وحشیگری در همه‌جا، به حدی که از سنجیدنش ناتوانیم.»لسینگ از حماقت بشر در طول تاریخ می‌گوید. اعتقاد به آرمان‌ها و مرام‌های جزمی که منجر به بزرگترین آدمکشی‌ها و استبدادها شده است؛ در حالیکه تاریخ ثابت کرده است عمر یک مرامِ افراطی چقدر می‌تواند کوتاه باشد. لسینگ از ما می خواهد دنباله‌روِ کور عقاید و مکتب ها نباشیم؛ تاریخ و ادبیات را بخوانیم تا با سرشت بشر بیشتر آشنا شویم و مرتکب خطاهای پیشینیان نشویم.چند نقل قول از کتاب که از هر توضیحِ من روشنگرتر است:« می‌توانیم در اتاقی مملو از دوستان نازنین بایستیم، و بدانیم که نُه‌دهم آنها، اگر آن جمع بخواهد، دشمن ما خواهند شد. معنی‌اش این است که اگر عضوی از جامعه ای یکپارچه باشید، می‌دانید که مخالفت با اعتقادات آن جامعه ممکن است برایتان به قیمت عنصر نامطلوب، جنایتکار، تبهکار قلمداد شدن تمام شود.»«آدم ها قطعیت را دوست دارند. از این مهم تر، آرزومند قطعیت‌اند، طالب قطعیت و واقعیت‌های مهم و چشمگیراند. دوست دارند بخشی از جنبشی باشند که به این واقعیت‌ها و قطعیت‌ها مجهز است، و اگر شورشی‌ها و بدعت گذارانی وجود داشته باشند، قضیه رضایت بخش تر هم می‌شود، چون این ساختار در همه ما بسیار ریشه دار است.»« ما فراموش می کنیم که وارث کمابیش دوهزار سال حکومت استبدادی هستیم که هیتلرو استالینیسم در مقابل آن کودکانی بیش نیستند.»«این سانسور درونی همان چیزی است که روان‌شناس‌ها آن‌ها را – همچون یک اصل – درونی کردنِ فشار بیرونی می‌خوانند، و اتفاقی که می‌افتد این است که نگرشی که سابقاً نمی‌پسندیده‌اید و در برابرش مقاومت کرده‌اید، به نگرش شما تبدیل می‌شود.»و آخرین نقل قول، در ستایش از ادبیات و تاریخ:«ادبیات و تاریخ، این دو شاخۀ مهم دانش انسان، پیشینۀ رفتار انسان، تفکر انسان، روز به روز بیشتر در نظر جوانان، و همین‌طور آموزگاران، ارزش خود را از دست می‌دهند. با این همه، می‌توانیم شهروند‌ بودن و انسان بودن را از آنها بیاموزیم. میتوانیم بیاموزیم چگونه به آن شیوۀ آرام، معقول، انتقاد‌آمیز و آمیخته به شک که تنها طرز تلقیِ ممکن برای انسان متمدن است، یا دست کم همۀ فلاسفه و فرزانگان چنین گفته‌اند، به خودمان و جامعه‌ای که در آن زندگی می‌کنیم بنگریم.»

  • Andrew
    2019-05-13 08:55

    A clear-sighted, well-argued plea for individuality of thought in an age of mass emotions and social conditioning.Doris Lessing has faith in the power of writers to stay detached from these mass emotions and "enable us to see ourselves as others see us." I like the image she gives of writers as a collective organism, constantly evolving but always providing this same crucial function of detached examination of the human condition.There are some fascinating passages on the way mass emotions are constructed by governments and leaders, for example pointing out how often "blood" is invoked when calling people to war or revolution - this, she says, is a harking back to our long ancestral history of ritual sacrifice, cleansing through blood. Also the constant projection of an Enemy to rally people together.It's refreshing to hear Lessing's account of how often majority opinion has been completely wrong, and the most seemingly unchangeable opinions have changed completely - for example the white minority in the Rhodesia of her childhood thought that their racist regime would last forever, but it didn't. Also in World War Two, Britons revered friendly, pipe-smoking Uncle Joe Stalin, their ally against Hitler, but then a couple of years later he was their worst enemy (I remember my grandmother talking about this as well). There are lots of fascinating psychological experiments showing how much we will do to agree with authority or with the group - only a small minority (she puts it at 10%) is usually prepared to go against the group opinion, often at great individual cost. She says that all of us are, to some degree, brainwashed by the society we live in, and that "There is nothing much we can do about this except to remember that it is so."She goes on: "It seems to me that we are being governed by waves of mass emotion, and while they last it is not possible to ask cool, serious questions. One simply has to shut up and wait, everything passes." This reminds me of living in New York through 9/11 and the hugely irrational responses to it. In that time, there were certain things you simply couldn't say.Lessing gives several examples of this group thinking, from classic psychological experiments (such as the one where people are divided into prisoners and warders, and the warders quickly become sadistic and authoritarian) to the world of literature, where certain writers are praised by everyone, then suddenly fall out of fashion (Lessing herself wrote a couple of novels under a pseudonym to see if they got the same reaction as her other work, and of course they were rejected by her two regular publishers and ignored by the critics).This book was written in 1987, before the arrival of technologies like the internet. The methods of control and manipulation are surely stronger now than in 1987, but so are the possibilities for resistance. It's easier now to find the information that undercuts official propaganda, or to publish your own individual views, or to connect with other people who dissent from the majority opinion. Not following the herd is a challenge at any time, but, as Lessing says, it's vital:"Of course, there are original minds, people who do take their own line, who do not fall victim to the need to say, or do, what everyone else does. But they are few. Very few. On them depends the health, the vitality of all our institutions."

  • Nathan
    2019-05-14 13:49

    I am a liberal, pro-gay, pro immigration reform, feminist, environmentalist living in Utah County, Utah, which is perhaps the worst environment in the United States to be any one of those things. It is incredibly easy to distance myself from everyone around me, to vilify anyone who disagrees with me and to say that in their views they lose their humanity. It is incredibly easy for me to shut out any opinion that is contrary to mine, and chose not to listen to it. It is incredibly easy for me to go about in my day to day life never evaluating what I actually believe, but rather affirming to myself that since my beliefs are fashionable they must be right.Prisons We Choose to Live Inside exists as a rejection of taking the easy path. In her series of five essays, Doris Lessing pleas for a return to rationality, individualism and dispassion. She makes it incredibly clear that, while not necessarily easy, self reflection is always worth it. Citing psychological experiments, personal experience and world history, Lessing tackles such complex issues as communism, mob mentality, maintaining a sense of self in a chaotic world and the education system. It's kind of all over the place, but Lessing's strong voice ties it all together in a mesmerizing way.I particularly liked the section entitled "You are Damned and We are Saved". I thought it spoke so much toward so much of human nature. It's about how almost everyone sees that the world can be divided into two groups, and how their group is always in the right and the other is, at the best misguided. I want every member of the United States House of Representatives to read it, because it seems that we live in a time where no Republican can freely admit that a Democrat has good ideas and vice-versa. It takes strength to stop from turning you and someone you disagree with into enemies, but it's the only real way to accomplish anything.

  • Eva G
    2019-05-27 14:46

    Meh. Od tejto knihy som asi čakala príliš veľa. Čakala som nadčasové eseje a dostala som niečo, z čoho na mňa dýchala studená vojna a rok 1985, kde vtedajšia komunistickým režimom oprávnená kritika všetkého ľavicového vyznieva dnes zjednodušujúco a centristicky, pritom autorka v takmer každej eseji brojí proti zjednodušovaniu a heslovitosti. Fakt ešte raz si niekde prečítam niečo ako "pravicoví aj ľavicoví extrémisti a fanatici veria, že túto zmenu uskutoční vodca, ktorému sa prejavuje extravagantná úcta" tak začnem kričať. Malo to aj dobré momenty, ale viac menej stating the obvious.

  • Hamidreza
    2019-05-22 15:04

    دوریس لسینگ ، یکی از قدرتمندترین منتقدهاییه که تابحال دیدم . خیلی ساده ، واقعیات رو به آدم تذکر میده به طوری که دفعه اول متوجهش نمیشی ولی وقتی یبار دیگه همون بند رو میخونی میفهمی چه حرف مهمی زده .دست چپمان نمیداند- نمیخواهد بداند – که دست راستمان چه میکندبه عقیده لسینگ ، وقتی آیندگان به زمانه ما فکر کنند از یک چیز بیشتر از همه تعجب میکنند ؛ ما با وجود این همه دانشی که درباره خودمان داریم ، مقدار خیلی کمی از آنها به مرحله عمل در آورده ایم . هنوز نمیدانیم که چطور با چشم دیگران به خود نگاه کنیم . همانطور که بی طرفانه رفتار و عملکرد موجودات دیگر را مطالعه میکنیم ، خودمان را مورد ارزیابی قرار دهیم – که این باعث پیشرفتمان شودلسینگ به "چشم دیگر" اعتقاد دارد . او اعتقاد دارد ما باید عملکرد خود در جایگاه گروه و فرد را به چشم دیگران ببینیم. نباید به احساسات عمومی پایبند باشیم . چون پوچ هستند و آیندگان از کار ما حیرت خواهند کرد . همانطور که ما از رفتار و منش مردم چندین قرن پیش با تعجب صحبت میکنیم ؛ که مثلا یونانی ها چگونه به خدایانی دیگر اعتقاد داشتند و ...یکی از دوستانم که انسان شناس است میگوید، رمان ها باید در قفسه کتابخانه کنار کتاب های انسان شناسی قرار بگیرندرمان ها ، درباره وضعیت انسان ها اظهار نظر میکنند . پس چه بهتر که در کنار کتاب های انسان شناسی باشنددر ایام جنگ همه ما ، به عنوان یک نوع ، به گذشته رجعت میکنیم ، و اجازه می یابیم وحشی و ستمکار باشیمشاید خیلی از سربازان اعتراف نکنند ، ولی زمان جنگ یکی از بهترین زمان های زندگی شان بوده ، زیرا در آن زمان تمام شجاعت ها و شهامت ها و ابتکار عمل ها و مهارت هایشان به کار آمده و از این بابت خوشحال اند . به عنوان مثال وقتی کسی از جنگ تعریف میکند ، شور اندکی در خود احساس میکنید که چند برابر این در زمان جنگ اتفاق می افتد . به همین دلایل است که (شاید در ظاهر معلوم نباشد ولی) دوریس لسینگ از جنگ بیزار استالگو های گذشته چندان در ما نیرومند اند که انتقاد از جامعه و تمایل رابه آسانی گرفتار این قبیل الگو ها میشود منظور از الگو توهین هایی است که به مخالفان و جناح آنها میزنیم و اینکه اعتقاد داریم که ما فرشته ایم و شما لعنت شده . از این نظر خوش اقبالیم که اگر احساس کنیم مدارسمان ایراد دارند ، میتوانیم آنچه را که میخواهیم خود بیاموزیم ؛ و به دنبال افکاری که به گمان مام ارزشمند اند به هرجا که میخواهیم دست دراز کنیم

  • Bouquiniste
    2019-05-01 07:12

    Z nejakého dôvodu som od tejto knihy čakala priveľa. Nadinterpretácia názvu? Päť esejí zaradených v knihe prináša pár nesamozrejmo-samozrejmých myšlienok: napriek životu v technologicky vyspelej spoločnosti sme plní atavizmov, vojna a krv nás vzrušujú, dáme sa ľahko ovplyvniť mainstreamovými postojmi – a mali by sme si tieto naše sklony uvedomiť, aby sme od nich mohli poodstúpiť a prípadne ich zmeniť. Čiže by sme si mali pestovať kritické myslenie a elity. TO JE CELÉ, vážení! Prvé tri texty sú riedke, banálne, citujú chronicky známe psychologické experimenty a pár bulvárnych, pardon, poučných príbehov. Druhé dve ma zaujali viac, pretože ponúkajú komplexnejší, vrstevnatejší pohľad na spoločnosť, na jednotlivé generácie i na spoločenské a humanitné vedy a príjemne cez ne presvitá humanistický odkaz. Zaskočil ma Lessingovej štýl – resp. to, čo sa z neho stalo v slovenskom preklade: prvé tri eseje sú napísané takmer hulvátsky, akoby sa chceli zavďačiť vkusu primitívneho publika. Neviem, či ten obhrublý jazykový register zvolila prekladateľka, alebo bol už v pôvodnom texte. Možno je to tak v origináli a ja jednoducho nie som cieľovka tejto knihy. Zároveň sú však prvé dve eseje tak nápadne presýtené kalkami z angličtiny, až je to rušivé... Namiesto čitateľky sa vo mne chvíľami prebúdzala korektorka. No ku koncu knihy som si na ten jazyk buď zvykla, alebo sa spolu s obsahovou kvalitou textu zvýšila aj kvalita prekladu. Neviem, porovnávať s pôvodným vydaním to nebudem – čakajú na mňa stovky lepších kníh!

  • Mahshid D
    2019-05-04 12:10

    چقدر این زن روشن و خواندن این کتاب که مجموعه‌ای از سخنرانی هایش است دوست داشتنی بود. با اینکه پراکندگی اطلاعات اواخر هر فصل از کتاب کمی موجب گیجی خواننده می‌شد اما باز هم در بستر روند تفکر برانگیزی نوشته شده بود که خواندنش آدم را دست کم با بسیاری از مواضع و تفکرات معتصبانه‌ی خودش -که به نوعی همان زندان‌های حقیقی بشر به شمار می‌روند- رو به رو می‌کرد‌.فصل مورد علاقه‌ام هم آن جایی است که دارد از جنگ کُره و مقوله‌ی شستشوی مغزی حرف می‌زند.

  • Sara Kamjou
    2019-05-03 10:07

    انگار نشسته باشی به گفتگو با یک نفر با عقاید مشابه با خودت، با این تفاوت که اطلاعات و تجربه‌های بیشتری دارد. چه‌قدر لذت‌بخش می‌تواند باشد؟گپ لذتبخشی بود.امتیازم به این کتاب ۳.۵ بود، اما چون نحوه پایان‌بندی و به عبارت دقیق‌تر رها کردن کتاب را دوست نداشتم به پایین گرد شد.---------------------------------بخش‌های ماندگار کتاب:هر کس تاریخ بخواند می‌داند که باورهای پرشور و قدرتمند یک قرن معمولا در قرن بعد پوچ و غیرعادی جلوه می‌کند. هیچ دوره‌ای در تاریخ نیست که در نظر ما همانگونه باشد که قاعدتا در نظر مردمی که در آن می‌زیسته‌اند بوده است. آنچه ما، در هر عصری، از سر می‌گذرانیم، تأثیر احساسات عمومی و شرایط اجتماعی بر ماست که جدا کردن خودمان از آن تقریبا ناممکن است. احساسات عمومی غالبا آن‌ها هستند که عالی‌تر، زیباتر و بهتر از همه جلوه می‌کنند. و با این حال پس از یک سال، پنج سال، یک دهه، پنج دهه مردم می‌پرسند: «چگونه می‌توانستند به چنین چیزی اعتقاد داشته باشند؟» چون اتفاق‌هایی افتاده که احساسات عمومی مذکور را به زباله‌دان تاریخ سرنگون کرده است....آدم‌هایی که پیوسته در حال سنجش و مطالعه‌اند به منتقدان آنچه می‌سنجند و مطالعه می‌کنند تبدیل می‌شوند.... به گمان من، رمان‌نویس‌ها کارهای مفید بسیاری برای هم‌نوعان خود انجام می‌دهند، اما یکی از ارزشمندترین کارهایشان این است: به ما توانایی می‌دهند که خود را آن‌طور ببینیم که دیگران ما را می‌بینند.... یکی از دوستانم که انسان‌شناس است می‌گوید رمان‌ها باید در قفسه‌ی کتابخانه کنار کتاب‌های انسان‌شناسی قرار بگیرند. ... بدوی خواندن دیگران آسان است و اذعان به اینکه ممکن است خودمان بدوی باشیم دشوار. ...آنگاه که کلمه‌ی خون بر زبان جاری می‌شود، نشانه‌ی این است که عقل و منطق به زودی رخت برخواهد بست. ...پژهشگران شستشوی مغزی و القا و تلقین کشف کرده‌اند که آدم‌هایی که خندیدن بلد بودند، از همه بهتر مقاومت می‌کردند. ...در بلندمدت همیشه این فرد است که شرایط را تغییر می‌دهد، و امکان تحول واقعی جامعه را فراهم می‌کند.

  • Ahmad Sharabiani
    2019-05-14 09:48

    Prisons We Choose to Live Inside, Doris Lessing عنوان: زندان‌هایی که برای زندگی انتخاب می‌کنیم؛ نویسنده: دوریس لسینگ؛ مترجم: مژده دقیقی؛ مشخصات نشر: تهران؛ کندوکاو، 1389، در 119 ص، شابک: 9789649011738؛ موضوع: گروه های اجتماعی، فردیت، مسئولیتمجموعه مقالات انتقادی اجتماعی به قلم دوریس لسینگ، شامل پنج مقاله با عنوانهای: «آنگاه که آیندگان به ما میاندیشند»، «تو لعنت شده ای، ما رستگار»، «عوض کردن کانال برای تماشای دالاس»، «ذهنهای جمعی» و «آزمایشگاههای تغییر اجتماعی» ست

  • Mahdi Bigdeli
    2019-04-28 09:53

    مهم نیست که چقدر خود را در ظاهر سازگار کنید _ چون در دنیایی که قرار است در آن زندگی کنید، سزای ناسازگاری غالبا مرگ است _ تا بتوانید وجود خود را در درون و داوری و تفکر خود را زنده نگه دارید!

  • Ms. Jared
    2019-05-12 06:50

    A great feminist, brilliant thinker, and one of my favorite writers. (The Grass Is Singing is AMAZING.) I wish I'd read her when I was younger and thought about things more deeply then, in the 80s, when she wrote these pieces. Deep, insightful, thought provoking pieces on individuality, group think, political movements, history, etc. which still ring true today. Which is actually kind of sad that we can't seem to learn from our mistakes. I'm going to reread this one every few years for inspiration to make sure I'm progressing into the radical old lady I wanna be and not giving in to the ease of aging gracefully.Thanks for adding to your reading list, Mark! I wouldn't have picked this one up if I hadn't seen it on your reading shelf!

  • Anthony
    2019-05-11 08:02

    I can see that she's sharp. Unfortunately, this is one of those books where the ideas are so general that nothing much of interest is said. I don't mean to pick on Lessing, but this is a typical sort of book published by someone after they've achieved what they wanted to achieve in life - they stop talking about anything specific. I went to a talk by a Nobel prize winner in chemistry and his talk was much the same. Blah blah blah, schools need to change, children are the future, war is bad and the human race is doomed unless x happens (which it will because x is inevitable). Let me summarise the book:The vast majority of humans will conform to the prevailing ideas of their society regardless of what those ideas are. Progressive democratic lefty people should use this knowledge to do something progressive democratic and lefty.

  • Amir ali
    2019-04-27 09:58

    زندان هایی که برای زندگی انتخاب می‌کنیم» ، مجموعه مقالاتی انتقادی ـ اجتماعی به قلم دوریس لسینگ (داستان نویس انگلیسی) است. وی در پنج مقاله تحت عنوانهای: «آنگاه که آیندگان به ما می‌اندیشند»، «تو لعنت شده‌ای، ما رستگار»، «عوض کردن کانال برای تماشای دالاس»، «ذهن‌های جمعی» و بالاخره «آزمایشگاههای تغییر اجتماعی»، عادتهای نگرشی و رفتاریِ مسلط بر انسان و جامعة مدرن را مورد تأمل قرار داده است. مسئلة مشترک و عمدة این مقالات، امر «قضاوت» است.از خواندن این مقاله ها در همان که بسیار بر دل نگرانیهای همیشگیم افزوده شد اما لذتی بسیار عمیق نیز بردم از نگاه تیزبین و هوشمندانه این جامعه شناس و فیلسوف و رمان نویس که دزادگاهش کرمانشاه ایران است

  • Irene
    2019-05-15 15:11

    Los temas que trata son interesantes y es un libro super cortito, pero no sé porque me ha dado sueño leerlo. Básicamente es sobre cómo ha reaccionado la humanidad desde siempre a la presión social, sobre cómo basta dar un vistazo a la historia para darte cuenta de eso y qué podemos hacer para evitar los mismos errores. Temas de psicología social que son muy importantes. Lectura recomendada.

  • Mark Robison
    2019-05-08 14:44

    I really didn’t think I’d ever read this book. I bought it because it was cheap and I kind of like Doris Lessing, but as soon as I started reading it, I was hooked and read straight through. The book consists of transcripts from five lectures about politics and history, but are mostly about how to think independently and not get trapped by partisan fervor on the right or left. Sounds boring. It wasn’t, to me.

  • Andrew Boden
    2019-05-24 12:56

    Seventy-six pages of the most clear-minded writing I've read on "the human condition." Doris Lessing's assessment of our failure to apply what we've learned in social psychology, anthropology and sociology to how we conduct ourselves individually and as a culture is both bracing and deeply enriching. This is my second reading of the book in ten years and it has left me understanding even more about what it means to be human. I can't recommend this book enough.

  • Karen
    2019-05-20 09:02

    I love Doris Lessing's candor and ability to cut through bs. She wrote this during Reagan/Thatcher and it's helpful to look back at that time. Her thesis is that humanity can improve itself by becoming self aware about common social responses, and once aware, head them off. I'm doubtful, but enjoyed the thought experiment.

  • Shahrzad
    2019-05-05 15:03

    نگاه خودمحورش را خیلی دوست نداشتم ولی مباحثی که مطرح کرده به شدت قابل تامل هستند

  • Crysty
    2019-05-21 09:56

    It's true the Jane Somers did not get enough credit for actually being Doris Lessing but, occasionally, Doris Lessing gets too much credit just for being Doris Lessing.

  • Abbi Dion
    2019-05-05 13:07

    [On Irony]Well--the pleasures of irony, one sometimes has to think, are the only consolation when contemplating the human story…[On the Comfort of the Group and the Odiousness of the Group]It means that if you are a member of a close-knit community, you know you differ from this community's ideas at the risk of being seen as a no-goodnik, a criminal, an evil-doer. This is an absolutely automatic process…But there is always the minority who do not, and it seems to me that our future, the future of everybody, depends on this minority. And that we should be thinking of ways to educate our children to strengthen this minority and not, as we mostly do now, revere the pack.Opponents are never hated as much as former allies.[On Knowledge and Cognizance]As I said in the last essay, I believe that people coming after us will marvel that on the one hand we accumulated more and more information about our behavior, while on the other, we made no attempt at all to improve our lives.I believe that we are in the grip of something very powerful and very primitive, and that we have not begun to come to grips with it. To study it, yes, that goes on in a hundred universities. But to apply it--no. Meanwhile, we observe later generations going through it and, knowing what we are capable of, fear for them. Perhaps it is not too much to say that in these violent times the kindest, wisest wish we have for the young must be: "we hope that your period of immersion in group lunacy, group self-righteousness, will not coincide with some period of your country's history when you can put your murderous and stupid ideas into practice."But it is one thing carrying a burden of knowledge around, half conscious of it, perhaps ashamed of it, hoping it will go away if you don't look too hard, and another saying openly and calmly and sensibly, "Right. This is what we must expect under this and that set of conditions."[On Fear of Ambiguity]People like certainties. More, they crave certainty, they seek certainty, and great resounding truths.[On Mind Control &, just, Control]Brain-washing has three main pillars or processes, by now well understood. the first is tension, followed by relaxation. This one is used, for instance in the interrogation of prisoners, when the interrogator is alternatively harsh and tender--one moment a sadistic bully, the next a kind friend. The second is repetition--saying or singing the same thing over and over again. The third is the use of slogans--the reducing of complex ideas to simple sets of words. These three are used all the time by governments, and always have been used. While I said before it is interesting to speculate to what an extent the use of these methods is unconscious,…separate for example from some sophisticated operator knowing exactly what he is doing.One mass movement, each a set of mass opinions, succeeds another: for war, against war; against nuclear war; for technology, against technology. And each breeds a certain frame of mind: violent, emotional, partisan, always suppressing facts that don't suit, lying, and making it impossible to talk in the cool, quiet, sensible low-keyed tone of voice which can produce truth.[On the Collective Mind: Follow-My-Leader]It has all been very entertaining but it has also left me feeling sad and embarrassed for my profession. does everything always have to be so predictable? Do people really have to be such sheep? Of course there are original minds, people who do take their own line, who do not fall victim to the need to say, or do, what everyone else does. But they are very few. Very few. On them depends the health, the vitality of all our institutions, not only literature, from which I have been drawing my examples.[On the Individual]Meanwhile, we may note that we all rely on, and we respect, this idea of the lonesome individualist who overturns conformity.I see what a great influence an individual may have, even an apparently obscure person, living a small quiet life.[On Laughter]It means, and I hope this won't sound too wild, choosing to laugh… The researchers of brainwashing and indoctrination discovered that people who knew how to laugh resistd best. The Turks, for instance… the soldiers who faced their torturers with laughter sometimes survived when others did not. Fanatics don't laugh at themselves; laughter is by definition heretical, unless used cruelly, turned outwards against an opponent or enemy. Bigots can't laugh. True believers don't laugh. Their idea of laughter is a satirical cartoon pillorying an opposition person or idea. Tyrants and oppressors don't laugh at themselves, and don't tolerate laughter at themselves. The liberated person, however, can laugh at herself, himself.

  • tamarack
    2019-05-05 13:04

    lessing's massey lectures (read by herself) and the added tracks of dramatized readings of her work made for some really good radio listening (these are archives of CBC's ideas from the mid-80s). lessing in an ex-communist from south africa, and her younger years spent in activist circles greatly colours her writings here. the topic is vaguely the myth of individuality, or the reality of group-think, and lessing's commentary is not too shy of scathing at times. i do not know if it is a generational or time-and-place effect, but her ideas (which she claims are not widely held, and which she anticipates great resistence to) seem absolutely sensible to me. yes, we are greatly influenced by those around us, and yes, we are all capable of being swept away from our own internal morals by social norms. i did not get any shocks from lessings lectures, but i did enjoy listening to her speak.

  • Zuzana
    2019-05-09 07:07

    Knižka, ktorá je rovnako aktuálna dnes, ako bola v polovici 80.tych rokov, keď vyšla. Vo svojich úvahách sa Lessing zamýšľa nad tým, ako pomocou humanitných vied - sociológie, psychológie, antropológie, histórie a literatúry (!), poznať seba, svoju minulosť a myšlienkové schémy našich spoločenstiev. Ako tieto vzorce nielen identifikovať, ale aj sa z nich poučiť a snažiť sa z nich čerpať.Nie je ľahké udržať si svoj názor, nebyť konformný a stádovitý, aj keď to je naša primitívna zakorenená vlastnosť, a aj keď postaviť sa "vlastným" je častokrát nepríjemné. Lessing zdôrazňuje dôležitosť samostatného nestranného myslenia a schopnosť filtrovať myšlienkové schémy a mechanizmy, ktorými sa riadi skupina (náboženská, politická, akákoľvek).Oh, a vo výbornom slovenskom preklade.

  • Laura
    2019-05-19 13:52

    I read this today while waiting for LS to get out of surgery. I purchased it by accident and I know I read it 20 years ago but I don't remember anything about it. This volume is 5 lectures Lessing gave in 1985 for Canadian Broadcasting. The year seems appropriate for that was the year I transferred from Amherst to Mount Holyoke, where I discovered Lessing. It is also the middle of the Reagan-Thatcher decade and the essays are heavily evocative of this period.But Lessing's message is even more pertinent today: that everyone should pursue and cultivate individual thought--it is essential for democratic society (as is the study of history and literature).

  • JuliannaM
    2019-05-20 08:58

    I haven't read anything by Doris Lessing before this text. I think that thus would prove to be very useful as an introductory text for social science courses at universities... Its combines just the right amount of academic language and critical analysis to serve first year students as a fundamental guide to the beginning of their studies. While Leasing uses interesting examples to illustrate the very important points she makes in this text, her phrasing sometimes fails her in a way that makes "Prisons" seem more condescending than enlightening... All things considered, Lessing was a senior author at this point in her career, and I cannot begrudge her a good rant.

  • Initially NO
    2019-05-06 11:12

    Really enjoyed this manifesto by Doris Lessing. Affirming to psychiatric survivors, who have fought forced drugging and brain-washing regimes, who cannot understand why so many people in the community are hypnotised by the cult of psychiatry, standing by allowing them to be tortured, or even enabling psychiatrists to further damn the person, by making accusations about a person's personality. Lessing references Rhodesia apartheid, experiments with prisons/ guards, and the 1970s Rosenhan experiment with pseudo-patients.Very slim, easy to read, but with some biting, but sense-making ideas about war, greed and the structures of society.

  • ZaRi
    2019-05-09 11:12

    "This is a time when it is frightening to be alive, when it is hard to think of human beings as rational creatures. Everywhere we look we see brutality, stupidity, until it seems that there is nothing else to be seen but that--a descent into barbarism, everywhere, which we are unable to check. But I think that while it is true there is a general worsening, it is precisely because things are so frightening we become hypnotized, and do not notice--or if we notice, belittle--equally strong forces on the other side, the forces, in short, of reason, sanity and civilization."